Love these so far 13.49g each with GREAT capacity and a HIGH number of recharge cycles!
Love these so far. Some reviewers have noticed that EBL batteries aren't demonstrating LSD performance. LSD (low-self discharge) is very important if you put batteries in a flashlight, laser sight, or survival radio and need to forget about it for 3-5 years and still expect the batteries to have the majority of battery life remaining when you need to use the device. On my Sartorius 1574 scientific scale with .01g accuracy I get the following battery weights: EBL AAA 1100 mAh Nimh batteries weigh 13.49g Amazon Basics 800 mAh Black "made in Japan" AAA 11.48g Eneloop AAA (placeholder haven't weighed these yet) We have 7 and 9 year old boys. We have a house full of R/C cars, transmitters, Rokenbok, trains, toys and flashlights, walky-talkies and other devices. Our batteries get recharged after every use (remote control cars) typically because most things we use them in are high drain, and rarely sit in the battery box waiting to be used very long. While we also use rechargeable batteries in our wireless Mac keyboard and mouse, as well as all the remote controls. Honestly, LSD is just not a relevant feature and reviews like the one from NLee the Engineer going so far as saying EBL batteries are deceptive marketing just aren't relevant to us. At all. We want rechargeable batteries that can be recharged bunches of times with good capacity. With rechargeable batteries they are engineered as a compromise and balance of: Capacity (how many mAh minimum and typical) Cycles (# of times the batteries can be recharged) Self-Discharge Rate (loss of mAh as batteries sit longer as a function of time) You can purchase batteries that are exceptional in any one aspect. Eneloop Pros are a great battery if you need max mAh capacity and are willing to have batteries that only promise about 500 charge cycles before failure. These work great in cameras to say take pictures over a whole hour and half soccer game, but you'll be throwing them away sooner. You get Batteries like the Eneloop (or Amazon Basics Black "made in Japan" ) with exceptional LSD characteristics that are great if you need rechargeable batteries that will be there when you need them (survival flashlight) after several years. LSD characteristic is a function of what percentage of the mAh rating is available after the battery has sat on a shelf or unused in a device for so many months/years. However, both Eneloop regular and Amazon Basics Black ("made in Japan) have lower capacity (mAh) as a tradeoff compared to EBL or Eneloop Pro. They do offer more recharge cycles than Eneloop Pro and better LSD or charged "shelf life" than EBL. If you want great rechargeable AAA batteries with exceptional capacity (even above the 1100 mAh rating) and exceptional number of recharge cycles you can't beat EBL for the price. Eneloops sell 8-pack for $17.86 or $2.23 each (2100 recharges, 70% charge after 10 years, 800 mAh, 750 mAh minimum) Amazon Basics sell for $11.99 or $1.49 each (over 1000 recharges, 800 mAh, 750 mAh minimum) EBLs sell 16-pack for $16.99 or $1.06 each (1200 recharges, 1100 mAh, claims 75% charge after 3 years) Again the disputed LSD characteristics of rechargeable batteries have zero value to our family. We want good value, a high number of recharge cycles and good battery capacity. Our favorite batteries right now are EBL, our second favorites are Amazon Basics (only the Black "made in Japan"), and our 3rd favorites are Eneloop. We like Tenergy too. At less than half the price of Panasonic Eneloops and HIGHER capacities we've been choosing EBL, lately. For our needs and we don't need LSD "shelf life" as we typically put freshly charged batteries in anything that needs batteries, and for the price, we don't even consider paying a premium for Eneloop anymore, and the Black Amazon Basics "made in Japan" are lower in capacity and higher in price. Remember, you can have great Capacity, Cycles, or LSD characteristics but not a Good combination of two of the three, and certainly not a Good combination of all three. The higher the capacity of the battery (mAh), typically the fewer the number of recharge cycles. Eneloop Pros can only be charged 1/4 as many times a normal Eneloops. The better the LSD (low-self discharge) rate, typically you have to sacrifice either recharge cycles or capacity, usually both. The higher the number or recharge cycles, typically you are getting less capacity and diminished LSD performance. Pick what's important to you. Do the AA batteries in our Mac wireless keyboard run out sooner using EBL batteries (that have higher capacity) but lower LSD "shelf life" I honestly don't know. Who counts keystrokes? We don't pay attention to whether its been three weeks or seven weeks when we replace the AA batteries in our Mac wireless mouse or keyboard. We absolutely LOVE the EBL batteries because they meet our needs: They have the best capacity (mAh) compared to Eneloops and Amazon Basics (Black "made in Japan") They are sold at the best price point They can be recharged (cycles) either as often as the Eneloops or the Amazon Basics With two young boys under 10 years old we use three different Panasonic Eneloop smart chargers and an EBL multi-cell smart charger to keep our rechargeable D-Cell, AA and AAA batteries (EBL, Tenergy, Amazon Basics (Black "made in Japan") charged. Running R/C cars or Rokenbok we can blow through a ton of batteries in an afternoon, and we don't want to wait to just charge batteries 4 at a time (a small R/C car an transmitter can use x2 AAA batteries in the transmitter and X3 in the car). Our batteries are typically left in things like TV remotes, or wireless mouse and keyboard for the Mac for months. When batteries get low we recharge them. We prioritize recharge cycles and capacity, and pay attention to value. I can't imagine how infinitesimal the "value" of LSD battery functionality would be for our family for our usage. What would be the "value" of LSD batteries at a trade-off of fewer recharge cycles over the battery lifespan or lower capacity (mAh)? Lasting another couple of hours or another day in the Mac mouse or keyboard? All things being equal (like price) we'd always buy Eneloops. However, pricepoints aren't the same, and when we need more batteries we are finding ourselves recognizing the exceptional value of EBL batteries and ordering more EBLs every time. The only batteries we like, price considered, on par with EBL batteries are Tenergy. PAY ATTENTION TO EBL CAPACITY RATINGS EBL makes batteries in different mAh ratings in both AA and AAA. With the higher capacity (mAh rating) you get longer lasting batteries per use (just like Eneloop Pro batteries) but you also get fewer recharge cycles (just like the difference between Eneloop Pro and Eneloop batteries). Pick the EBL batteries that give you the best combination of maximum number of recharge cycles with good capacity (mAh). If you choose the max capacity (mAh) EBL cells for that battery size, AA or AAA you're essentially buying Eneloop Pro batteries. High performance batteries with exceptional capacity, with fewer recharge cycles before battery failure. The best compromise to find that "regular" Eneloop best of both worlds is to make sure you never buy the max capacity EBL cells in a given size. Same with Tenergy blues vs Tenergy Premiums. Same as Eneloop Pro vs Eneloop. My two cents. Read more
